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I thought it would be good at first, but it's not. The PUA community is full of frauds and it would be good to have a forum that exposes them, but this forum does not do that successfully.
This forum is mostly full of disgruntled guys who gave up on getting women. They tried some things and got negative reactions from women so they gave up. I, personally, rarely get a negative reaction from a woman. When I do, it is a learning experience and I can think of why it happened and modify my approach going forward.
You should not give up just because of a few negative reactions. You need to learn from your own mistakes and not just try other people's techniques that you read on a forum. Thick skin is truly necessary when you are learning. Don't be a crybaby.
There is one truth in pickup -> Talk to more girls and you will have more opportunities to get laid.
That is indisputable, but yet here some guys don't even acknowledge the benefits of cold approaches because they haven't made them work. If they haven't worked yet, who cares. You'll never see the bitch again anyhow.
I don't do the nightgame cause it's flake city, but try this in daygame:
1. Go to an area where there's lot of hot women walking around.
2. Interrupt her and ask an innocuous, open-ended question (about something realistic like where's a bookstore around here, not some gay line you read on a forum)
3. Ask her a few follow-ups or make a witty comment if something comes to you.
4. After one minute, tell her you're gonna get going, but she's cute and you'd like to get her number and get a drink sometime. (example: Literate and cute, not bad...why don't we get a drink around here sometime?)
And, adopt these beliefs:
1. I only talked to her for a minute so if she doesn't want to see me again, who cares, she doesn't even know anything about me and maybe she's just unavailable or not interested in dating at the moment.
2. I'm having a very innocent conversation, only if she's a total bitch would she be rude.
3. Sure, she's hot, but many hot girls are lonely and want a different type of guy than the guys they currently have in their life. That might be me.
4. There's plenty of other hot girls out there.
5. I'm just talking to her to find out if she's open to a date with me. This isn't mortal combat and I'm just going to be my normal self.
You get the idea, keep it casual, matter-of-fact, and realize you are just excavating her feelings and personality. She might be a closed-off bitch who only dates a certain type of guy or she might be open to anyone and give you a shot.
With this approach and mindset, you can approach girl after girl with such minimal mental effort. It allows you to line up a lot of possible dates without exerting too much mental energy.
Try it.
P.S. Go ahead and ream me for posting pick-up advice on this forum, whatever. I hope this resonates for some of you out there.
P.S.S. This is easy, but still does take practice on both the subtleties of the approach as well as the mindset. What you'll realize, though, is that most rejections will be polite using this method.
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It's true. I do like the lolz and the funny posters here. I'd like it to be a bit more constructive though so I posted my real advice.
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Pretty much true. But it's not a total failure. I'm guilty of this too in sort of using it as a PU forum and it's not. It doesn't claim to be. There are plenty out there. But nevertheless you're rightin that many unintelligent people come on here talking shit, but that's the nature of the internet.
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No some are very good at getting women. I think the whole PUA hate thing has made all the points it needs to make and we should now do an official ebook of all the major points that would be well over 350 pages. Some very good points have been made, but now people are getting bored as these points have all been make.
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Again many of the posters are good at getting women and post good advice. You're wrong on that one.
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This is what people on here are saying. It's just the message is now getting diluted.
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??? I don't see your point.
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Good advice. You're bang on.
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Again good stuff but I don't think you can really "adopt" a belief.
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Naw I think it does, there's a lot of shit pointed out about instructors, maybe more could be done to shoot down the theories, or at least show what works and what doesn't. That'd be nice. Instead of just going "oh yer what a scam this is, because er, it is, yer" pointing out what is wrong with the theories is more beneficial.
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Or guys with too much time on their hands who are bored as fuck like I usually am haha. For me it's like, get home from college, nothing to do, nobody goes out on weekdays, should study, fuck it I'll just browse the web.
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Thick skin is what gets you some. Go talk to girls and you'll notice that often their initial reaction is negative. Well not often, rarely in fact, but it definitely happens if you're the approacher a lot, it will happen to you. Now it's up to you to realise that it's bullshit and she doesn't really hate you, and up to you to decide that you don't particularly give a fuck anyway because you just want to piss about with some friends and her bitchiness is amusing for you.
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They work better if you can get them to come to you by saying something to your mates that relates to them which they will hear. Example: "oh that gals got one of them *fuck knows I'm shit at examples*" and they'll usually open you and they won't be bitchy or difficult. If you approach them, you have to realise that if they don't want to be approached, they won't let you talk to them. I've done it before, I go talk to them, nope they don't want to talk, I keep talking to them... nope they don't want to talk. And like, IMO this isn't something to do with me on a personal level and their reaction to me (though it's possible of course lol) it's just that they don't want to be approached. There are places where the girls DO want to be approached, such as the club. Street game can work if you know how to open with stuff like "what's the time" because if you go straight in "Hey, what's your name?" and they aren't ready to be approached, they won't really talk to you properly and may be bitchy as fuck if they haven't got good manners.
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Yer, now that's how you do "day game" in 90% of situations.
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I like point 2, 4 but I think differently otherwise. Typically my mindset is to have fun with friends I'm out with, so I guess most of the time, my train of thought is more along the lines of it's actually quite funny if she's bitchy so I am not at all worried about that, and plus I am typically one of the most popular ones out of my friends so all of that comes into play too. On solo approaches, I don't have much experience, but I think you're right, I can't really comment for soloing. I've done that like, 3 times?
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Yer, I think this would be helpful to most guys, so I like that. Like I said though most of the time I am with a group of friends so the whole thing is completely different than going at it alone.
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I like you in this post, which was a nice surprise. I responded to all of it.
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tl;dr but from the title alone, this forum used to be good for a laugh but now it's too heavily moderated and shit's being deleted and users are being banned willy-nilly just like RSDNation.
It won't be long before you're only left with a little clique/elite that will eventually get bored then fade and die.
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